There have been efforts in Arizona and elsewhere to increase the use of renewable energy for several years now.

Some experts have also been trying to raise the alarm about vulnerabilities in our energy grid.

Vice Admiral Lee Gunn says it’s possible to tackle both problems at once. Vice Admiral Gunn is retired from the Navy and serves as vice chairman of the Military Advisory Board at the Center for Naval Analyses, a Virginia-based nonprofit.

He was in town recently to meet with members of the Arizona Corporation Commission and others, and The Show talked with him about how significant the threats are to the grid in this country and how nervous we should be.

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