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Dave Clark

We know that craft beer has really taken off in recent years. But did you know that there are certified, master-level beer judges who are trained to tell definitively if a beer is good or bad? 

The Show got to sit down for a beer with one of only two of these master-level beer judges in Arizona.

Dave Clark is also a former professional brewer, a certified cicerone and the past president of the Society of Northeast Ohio Brewers homebrew club. He’s out with a new book about the history, present and future of beer here. It’s called "Phoenix Beer: A History Rising To New Peaks."

Clark is at Changing Hands Bookstore in Phoenix on Thursday to talk about the book and sample some local brews.

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