The federal government shutdown is in its 13th day, and thousands of workers remain out of work or on furlough. The National Parks system is also deeply affected, with a large percentage of them currently closed.

Arizona is among other states that are using their own funds to keep some of the parks open to visitors. But without a full complement of rangers and employees on hand, there is a growing concern about vandalism and garbage at the parks.

To talk about that, The Show reached out to Kevin Dahl, Arizona senior program manager for the National Parks Conservation Association.

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