Pence says he called Ducey following the 2020 election, but 'there was no pressure involved'

By Ignacio Ventura, Chad Snow
Published: Sunday, July 2, 2023 - 4:07pm
Updated: Monday, July 3, 2023 - 8:37am

On Saturday, the Washington Post reported that former President Donald Trump called former Gov. Doug Ducey and pressured him to overturn the 2020 election results in Arizona.

That same report detailed that Trump asked then Vice President Mike Pence to also call Ducey and find evidence of election fraud.

In a Sunday interview on CBS News’ “Face the Nation,” Pence confirmed he did contact Ducey.

“Well, I think the record reflects that I did check in, with not only Gov. Ducey, but other governors in states that were going through the legal process of reviewing their election results, but there was no pressure involved," he said. 

Former Vice President Mike Pence
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Former Vice President Mike Pence mingles with the audience after delivering a speech on border security in Phoenix on June 13, 2022.

Pence also said his communications over the election were to gather information and nothing more or less than that.

In a phone call following the 2020 election, Trump pressured Georgia’s top election official to “find” him about 12,000 more votes in the state.

Michael Zeldin, a former federal prosecutor, told CNN the calls to Georgia and Arizona are closely related.

"Which is, there’s a phone call made by the president — or phone calls made by the president — to try to pressure the governor into investigating his belief that there was fraud in the election that, if found, would tip the results toward him," Zeldin said.

Sources familiar with the call say Ducey did not record the conversation, but is surprised he has not been contacted by federal prosecutors investigating the former president.

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